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Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.08 22:36:00 - [1] You can not stop us. We have these Armageddons. You die now. Are you afraid? Death to empire starbases. Death to pubbies. Aloha Akbar. _ Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.08 22:44:00 - [2] There is no god but God and karttoon is His prophet. English only please. Zymurgist _ Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.08 22:53:00 - [3] Well, there was that one time that they didn't run off. What a Nightmare. _ Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.08 23:26:00 - [4] Originally by: LadyScarlet will someone please DD their magic carpet please Someone with your massive popularity in the Eve community shouldn't make such racist statements. In the future, please post with a bit more gravity. We are merely trying to earn a living from the fat of the land. This is HUGE. _ Dr. Gene Ray, Cubic and Wisest Human.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 04:16:00 - [5] For those infidels who are afraid and confused by the declarations of the Prophet Karttoon, Grand Sheikh of Goonswarm, allow me to enlighten you.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 04:23:00 - [6] Originally by: marxist revolutionary Originally by: Devilish Ledoux For those infidels who are afraid and confused by the declarations of the Prophet Karttoon, Grand Sheikh of Goonswarm, allow me to enlighten you. that **** sucks go back to star fraction They won't have me. I don't know what I did wrong.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 09:54:00 - [7] Originally by: A Sinner As much as I find these posts incredibly funny, the sarcasm might offend the eve muslim community who tend to be very religious and vengeful and I wouldn't want to see any planes crashing into CCP's headquarters. If you think we're really pretending to be Muslims, you don't know very much about Islam (or you think we don't. Either way, you're WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG YOU'RE WRONG.)
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 10:36:00 - [8] Originally by: Manterror Originally by: Kushmir Allah Ackbar Allahu Aloha.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 11:11:00 - [9] Originally by: Schwermetall Originally by: raven theta Both the rhetoric of your leader and your members in regard to this little operation is highly offensive to anyone of geniune faith. Referring to yourself as a 'prophet' is just plain sick. I couldnt care less who you grief, wardec or ransom but you have crossed the line. How CCP has allowed this to be published is beyond me. There's no rule stopping players to roleplay a fictional Faith. Exactly correct. Our "Faith" (Jihadswarmism, if you will) is entirely fictional. It's only based on Islam in the same way that the fictional Amarrian religion is based on Catholicism. We use terminology that Westerners associate with fanatical, extremist terrorism because we are playing fanatical, extremist spaceship terrorists. People who associate Islam with terrorists living in caves are sterotyping the religion and they are wrong to do so. However, in Eve, we take the stereotype, magnify it, expand on it and twist it until little crumbly pieces fall off, get into everyone's eyes and make them cry sweet, sweet tears. Sorry ... where was I? Oh, right. Fo. Fofo. Fofofofo. fart
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 11:27:00 - [10] Originally by: Mannock Cazorla Nice, but please you cant say that 09/11 is a "Happy Event" or make a party. Im not a believer, but I respect religion... life is more important than any religion. Dont mix real world with Eve. If you think it's so bad, hit the "report" button and let the mods sort it out. If they don't feel the need to intervene, then you can always show your disapproval by doing something about it in-game. To be in Goonswarm is to play Eve without any restrictions except those imposed by CCP and our directorate. Your thoughts feelings are a non-factor.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 11:38:00 - [11] Originally by: raven theta http://www.eveonline.com/pnp/terms.asp 4.You may not use “role-playing” as an excuse to violate these rules. There is a world of difference between the Amarr/christian similarity and the almost direct facsimile the goons have made in game which is gravely offensive. The thin veneer of a 'ficticious' religion draws even thinner when you actually speak to any of these players in local. It's all well and good to have a prepared release which is careful to point out the difference between itself and any actual religion but when the members forget themselves and blur the line even further in player to player interactions it HAS crossed the line. I don't know why I bother, but here goes. That rule is in effect so that people can't say, "Oh, we're not racist skinheads. We're only roleplaying skinheads." If we said "We're not Al Qaeda. We're only roleplaying Al Qaeda," then we would be in violation of the EULA. We are not doing that. We're roleplaying fanatical space terrorists who follow a made-up religion that has only the most tenuous relationship to a stereotypical view of an extremist subset of a real world religion. That's perfectly legal (as any GM will tell you if you bother to file a petition. It might be a fine distinction, but that's the way it is. If you honestly think we're violating the EULA, go ahead and file a petition. Let the people who get paid to enforce the rules decide what is and isn't fair game (I almost said 'kosher' haha). This Internet lawyery makes me tired.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 11:54:00 - [12] Originally by: raven theta Devlish one of your members referenced the Qur'an directly in a conversation today. The way your members 'roleplay' your 'fictitious' religion leaves much to be desired. As I said I really dont care if you wardec, extort money over and ultimately destroy other players POS. What I do take exception to is your open ridicule of a religion and, by your actions, the defamation of it's practitioners. In my country there are laws against these things, I would hate for someone to complain to the regulatory authority here and have the game shut down because of the actions of a few idiots. If an individual Goon does something that violates the EULA, petition him. If the GMs decide to do something about it, the Goon in question will almost certainly have it coming. Let me say that again. If ONE person does something that violates the rules of the game, petition it in-game and let the GMs deal with it in-game. WRITE THAT DOWN. YOU SEE GOON DO BAD THING IN GAME, YOU PETITION BAD GOON IN GAME. Side-note: the word Qu'ran is simply Arabic for "the recitation". If you automatically see a word in Arabic and assume that it has something to do with religion (any religion), it says more about you than it does about him. Even if he was talking about the real Qu'ran, I seriously doubt he said anything worse than what's said constantly in the average lowsec system. Either way, not my call. GM's call.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 11:59:00 - [13] Originally by: Anlarna VonCarstein Personally it seems that goons hide behind the idea of playing a 'faith' in order to be total ass hats, while the powers that be do nothing, fine, whatever ill take it in game, but i hope goons personal lives are more interesting than their online lives...because online they suck as well as rl. I could debate with you all day, but I have stuff to do. We'll resume this conversation in a few hours when I come back from my space shuttle mission.
Devilish Ledoux Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2009.09.09 12:14:00 - [14] Originally by: Nessa Aldeen Bottom line Goons.. it's bloody offensive. THEN. ****ING. PETITION. IT. YOU. NINCOMPOOP.

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